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{{old move|date=9 July 2024|from=Module:Language|destination=Module:Wikt-lang|result=moved|link=Special:Permalink/1235089085#Requested move 9 July 2024}}

== Samaritan ==

<nowiki>{{lang|smp|example}}</nowiki> (the code for [[Samaritan Hebrew language]]) adds a page to [[:Category:Articles containing Samaritan-language text]] but [[Samaritan language]] redirects to [[Samaritan Aramaic language]] {{code|sam}}.
-- [[User:Error|Error]] ([[User talk:Error|talk]]) 20:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
:That is not a 'failing' of [[Module:Language]] (because that module is not used by {{tlx|lang}}).  It may be a failing of [[Module:Lang]] which when queried gives these results:
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{lang|fn=category_from_tag|smp|link=yes}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{lang|fn=category_from_tag|smp|link=yes}}
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|smp|link=yes}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{lang|fn=name_from_tag|smp|link=yes}}
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{lang|fn=category_from_tag|sam|link=yes}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{lang|fn=category_from_tag|sam|link=yes}}
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|sam|link=yes}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{lang|fn=name_from_tag|sam|link=yes}}
:The ISO 639-3 custodian assigns <code>smp</code> to [https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/smp Samaritan].  Similarly, the IANA [https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry language-subtag-registry file] also assigns <code>smp</code> to Samaritan.  Apparently, no one at en.wiki has cared enough about which article is linked when <code>smp</code> is used in {{tld|lang}} to gain a consensus to override the ISO 639-3 name or to repoint the Samaritan-language-redirect so that it points elsewhere.
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:Issues involving {{tld|lang}}, {{tld|transliteration}}, and other templates that use Module:Lang, should be discussed at [[Template talk:Lang]], not here.  Where is it best to discuss repointing the Samaritan-language-redirect?  I don't know, except to say that such discussion should not be here.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 20:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. Asked at [[Template talk:lang#Samaritan]] --[[User:Error|Error]] ([[User talk:Error|talk]]) 01:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

== Mis-italicization ==

This should not be applying italics automatically in the case of {{tlx|wikt-lang|en|...}}, only for non-English material ([[MOS:FOREIGN]], [[MOS:ITALICS]]). If an English-language term is being used in a [[MOS:WAW|words-as-words]] manner, it can be italicized manually or by a template parameter. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 18:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
:I have hacked [[Module:Language/sandbox]] to create a common function ([[Special:Permalink/1231330976#L-171--L-199|permalink]]) that chooses how the 'text' is rendered.  Default rendering is:
::Latn-script text is rendered in italic except when
::*the language tag is <code>en</code> (English text renders in upright font)
::*{{para|italics|no}}
:::English text may be rendered in italics for [[MOS:WORDSASWORDS]] by setting {{para|italics|yes}} (or <code>y</code> or <code>+</code>)
::non-Latn-script text is rendered in upright font except when
::*{{para|italics|yes}} (or <code>y</code> or <code>+</code>)
:See [[Template:Wikt-lang/testcases]].
:
:Keep? Discard?
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 19:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move 9 July 2024 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' Admin: Please double check [[Special:PrefixIndex/Module:Wikt-lang/{{!}}the subpages associated with this page]] to ensure nothing else needs to be moved, otherwise it looks like this should be fairly straightforward. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User_talk:Asukite|<span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span>]] 17:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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[[:Module:Language]] → {{no redirect|Module:Wikt-lang}} – This module has a very misleading name. It is solely used to create Wiktionary links with a language anchor, and should not be confused with [[Module:Lang]] which is used for most other language related usages. This move will match the template name at [[Template:Wikt-lang]]. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

:Note: not all of the /data sub-modules actually belong to the module so will need to be checked when disentangling this. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] or whoever understands how these work, from digging through the subpages the only one I found that didn't mention Wiktionary was [[Module:Language/data/iso 15924]] and [[Module:Language/data/iso 15924/doc|its doc page]], would those potentially need to be moved to [[Module:Lang/data/iso 15924]]? [[User_talk:Asukite|<span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span>]] 16:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:::No.  [[Module:Language/data/iso 15924]] is not a submodule of [[Module:Lang]].  Do not move it there.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 16:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks, that was the only one that was unclear, don't want us to break anything! [[User_talk:Asukite|<span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span>]] 16:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
: '''Rename''' per nom. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 16:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Uncaught error ==

Currently using the template without a text value produces a Lua error - {{red|Lua error in Module:Wikt-lang at line 131: bad argument #1 to 'get_best_script' (string expected, got nil)}}. This should be more gracefully handled like the error in line 248. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:Caught:
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{Wikt-lang|en|}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{Wikt-lang|en|}}
::<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="1">{{Wikt-lang|en}}</syntaxhighlight> → {{Wikt-lang|en}}
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 13:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2025: Add new setting for Ilocano (<code>ilo</code>) ==

{{edit extended-protected|Module:Wikt-lang/data|answered=yes}}
The currently set name for the [[Ilocano language]], with language code <code>ilo</code>, is "Iloko" which does not match up with [[Wiktionary]]'s preferred name for the language, Ilocano. For instance, {{tlx|wikt-lang|ilo|something}} links to [[wikt: something #Iloko]], when it should instead link to [[wikt: something #Ilocano]].

=== Proposed revision ===
The following should be added to the <code>data</code> table variable in [[Module:Wikt-lang/data]]:

<syntaxhighlight lang="html+handlebars">
		["ilo"] = {
			["name"] = "Ilocano",
			["article"] = "Ilocano language",
		},
</syntaxhighlight>

=== Related edits ===
[[Special:Diff/1280064448#Alyansa para sa Bagong Pilipinas]] discusses a prominent politician's use of a term in regional vernacular that is unfamiliar to most of her constituents, wherein I added {{tl|Wikt-lang}} to add a link to its definition on Wiktionary.

[[wikt: Special:Diff/84203784]] reverts my apparently improper attempt on Wikt's side to make the link created by this template work. —[[User:Luisanton|<span style="color: #90c4dc;">Luis</span><span style="color: #43a047;">anton</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Luisanton|talk]])</small> 09:41, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

== Add [[Proto-Algonquian language|Proto-Algonquian]] ==

{{Edit extended-protected|Module:Wikt-lang/data|answered=yes}}
Add {{code|alg-pro}} for Proto-Algonquian. This is the code already used [[wikt:Category:Proto-Algonquian language|on Wiktionary]], consisting of the prefix {{code|pro-}} for protolanguages plus the ISO 639-2 code {{code|alg}} for [[Algonquian languages|Algonquian]]. Hundreds of words and thousands of place names in American English derive from Algonquian languages, which in secondhand literature and on Wikipedia are often lumped together as "Algonquian" when the precise source language is either unknowable or unspecified due to laziness/confusion; Proto-Algonquian reconstructions are therefore mentioned fairly often and have enormous potential to increase as Wikipedia's etymology sections improve in quality.<br/>Note that many other uncontroversial reconstructed languages are missing; the current set of codes for protolanguages represents exclusively a handful of European branches of Indo-European, plus Proto-Indo-European, and Proto-Semitic. This clear bias towards European traditional philology is not a good look for Wikipedia and should change in the near future.

=== Proposed revision for now ===
(I guess) the following should be added to the <code>data</code> table variable in [[Module:Wikt-lang/data]]:

<syntaxhighlight lang="html+handlebars">
		["alg-pro"] = {
			["name"] = "Proto-Algonquian",
			["article"] = "Proto-Algonquian language",
		},
</syntaxhighlight>

— [[User:Ganjabarah|Ganjabarah]] ([[User talk:Ganjabarah|talk]]) 01:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
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